Paid TEFL in Asia without a degree.

   

Paid TEFL in Asia without a degree.

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How likely is it I can find a job like this? Ideally in China, Japan, S. Korea, Thailand or Malaysia but open to any suggestion.

The pay doesn’t need to be good, just enough to live on. I’d be willing to do training or lessons as required.

I have no teaching experience, but I do have a little bit of experience working with younger children in sports coaching - although no formal qualification.

Really got no idea how to go about looking for jobs in Asia, could use any sort of advice.

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In China and Thailand it would be do-able…. but you have to understand the risks involved. Without a degree you can’t get the correct visas and a contract would essentially be useless… I have met people doing it that got screwed for a couple of months pay because you would have no power as an employee. Do-able though.

     
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Garybliss123 - 09 October 2012 02:10 PM

In China and Thailand it would be do-able…. but you have to understand the risks involved. Without a degree you can’t get the correct visas and a contract would essentially be useless… I have met people doing it that got screwed for a couple of months pay because you would have no power as an employee. Do-able though.

I don’t think I’d be prepared to accept the risk of being screwed over to be honest.

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As Gary said, you can try China or Thailand. You can totally forget Japan and Korea though, as they actually check degrees properly. Malaysia isn’t really possible as the majority of teaching jobs there are for ‘real’ (qualified) teachers.

Half of the teachers living in my small town here in China don’t have degrees and started with no experience. Not only is it possible, it’s actually quite easy. As long as your school has a good relationship with the local government, they can easily get around Chinese law in order to employ you. Training schools in smaller towns have to do this as it’s harder for them to attract more experienced teachers and they need a lot of them! No doubt you could work in my town if you wanted to. If you are willing to work in a small town you can definitely do it.

James1985 off here works with no degree in China right now, so I’m sure he will be along here soon to tell you that.

Another consideration by the way, you are Scottish, right? How strong is your accent?

     
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I dont have a degree and i definitely have the right visa!

     
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James1985 - 10 October 2012 02:16 AM

I dont have a degree and i definitely have the right visa!

And you’ve done it easily for a few years as you said. But I have met people doing the same thing that got screwed. It’s important for people to remember that. Most people that do it though have no problems.

     
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Garybliss123 - 10 October 2012 04:23 AM
James1985 - 10 October 2012 02:16 AM

I dont have a degree and i definitely have the right visa!

And you’ve done it easily for a few years as you said. But I have met people doing the same thing that got screwed. It’s important for people to remember that. Most people that do it though have no problems.

You’re right of course, there is always a small risk.

BUT, once that Z visa is turned into a resident permit, nobody is ever gonna go back and check your documents again. If the police or any officials ask to see your ID all you do is show them your passport with your resident permit stuck in it, and you’ll be on your way. They wouldn’t check much because there’s no way they’d force a government department to admit it wrongly issued a residents permit.

Once you have that permit you are pretty much safe.

Working on a tourist or business visa however… now that’s risky.

     
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Lunny - 09 October 2012 11:40 PM

As Gary said, you can try China or Thailand. You can totally forget Japan and Korea though, as they actually check degrees properly. Malaysia isn’t really possible as the majority of teaching jobs there are for ‘real’ (qualified) teachers.

Half of the teachers living in my small town here in China don’t have degrees and started with no experience. Not only is it possible, it’s actually quite easy. As long as your school has a good relationship with the local government, they can easily get around Chinese law in order to employ you. Training schools in smaller towns have to do this as it’s harder for them to attract more experienced teachers and they need a lot of them! No doubt you could work in my town if you wanted to. If you are willing to work in a small town you can definitely do it.

James1985 off here works with no degree in China right now, so I’m sure he will be along here soon to tell you that.

Another consideration by the way, you are Scottish, right? How strong is your accent?

To be honest China is probably my number one choice anyway. I’ll do some digging, whereabouts are you based in China anyway?

Yes I’m Scottish. I definitely have a Scottish accent but I’m quite well spoken, although I guess it could be a problem because nobody wants to learn how to speak English with a Scottish accent (for some bizarre reason…)!

     
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If you decide on China I can ask some people here I know that did it without a degree how they went about it. Give me a shout.

     
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Garybliss123 - 10 October 2012 09:08 PM

If you decide on China I can ask some people here I know that did it without a degree how they went about it. Give me a shout.

Well I will definitely be visiting China for a few weeks at least. I’d appreciate that.

     
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Robert Morrison - 10 October 2012 06:23 PM

nobody wants to learn how to speak English with a Scottish accent (for some bizarre reason…)!

It’s not so much that mate, it’s the strong Scots accents that are the problem. Not just Scots… any strong accent (Geordie, Belfast, etc.) Just letting you know you will have less chance of getting a job if you sound more like Rab C Nesbitt rather than, say, Ewan McGregor.

     
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Lunny - 11 October 2012 12:59 PM
Robert Morrison - 10 October 2012 06:23 PM

nobody wants to learn how to speak English with a Scottish accent (for some bizarre reason…)!

It’s not so much that mate, it’s the strong Scots accents that are the problem. Not just Scots… any strong accent (Geordie, Belfast, etc.) Just letting you know you will have less chance of getting a job if you sound more like Rab C Nesbitt rather than, say, Ewan McGregor.

I don’t think it would be too hard in China, they are crying out for people. And who actually has a phone interview anyway?

     
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Garybliss123 - 11 October 2012 01:28 PM
Lunny - 11 October 2012 12:59 PM
Robert Morrison - 10 October 2012 06:23 PM

nobody wants to learn how to speak English with a Scottish accent (for some bizarre reason…)!

It’s not so much that mate, it’s the strong Scots accents that are the problem. Not just Scots… any strong accent (Geordie, Belfast, etc.) Just letting you know you will have less chance of getting a job if you sound more like Rab C Nesbitt rather than, say, Ewan McGregor.

I don’t think it would be too hard in China, they are crying out for people. And who actually has a phone interview anyway?

True. Being white and having a pulse is the most important thing.

By the way, who’s that handsome devil in the hat in your avatar?

     
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